Sunday, 15 July 2012

A fisk of Roger Tichbourne

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A fisk of Roger Tichbourne

I have had some rubbish written about me over the last few years, mainly by one person who I don’t think I have said more than five words to in my life – but today has hit an all time low. So I am going to fisk his article about me.
My comments are in bold
Yesterday Robert Rams posted a tweet proclaiming his great happiness at the demise of Council housing.
No I did not, I tweeted that I was happy to see the end of the guaranteed council house of life for new tenants. What is this world if we do not want to help people get out of the dependency culture and free up more council housing for those who really need it?

This silly little berk (in the classical sense of the word),

As ever, if you lose the argument – insulting someone is where you go next, well done Roger!

who clearly was born with a silver spoon shoved somewhere the sun doesn’t shine is fast becoming a complete embarrassment.
You know nothing of my upbringing – but needless to say your insults towards my father and my late mother yesterday on your blog, really were disgusting. Nevertheless, your well-worn obsession with penetration, scatology and my parentage say a lot more about you than about me.
He has been caught out time and time again for misleading the general public, in small matters (tweeting he was at Mill Hill Library when he wasn’t)

I was there – just because you got there after I had left and I did not make myself known to the staff – you really are a sad little man for making this up.

to large matters (wasting six months of Friern Barnet library campaigners time inviting bids to keep the library open, when he’d already decided to sell the building and pocket the capital receipt).

Funny cos we now have a community bid with which we are working – is it tiring constantly being proved wrong?
Politics is a game of trust and no one who knows Robert Rams trusts him.

Perhaps we should just add this to the list of unsubstantiated nonsense that I can’t be bothered to rebut.
This blog regularly has comments left by a former Tory councillor who lives in Havering and knows Rams through the GLA. Even he doesn’t trust him and has said so publicly.
This is a man who is upset with me because I had to intervene in a private matter between himself and an Assembly Member and his response was to describe me as a Nazi. As someone who lost family to the Nazi this is the worst thing you could ever say.

When I read Rams comments, I was reminded of when I was about 18 years old. I met a rather lovely young lady who lived in Henley on Thames. I went up to see her and we spent an afternoon in the pub. At one point a group of disabled young people arrived and embarked in some boats. We were having a beer and I commented that it was really nice to see them having fun. Almost as I said it a group of about 15 young men in rather extravagent suits walked past. One spied the group and shouted “look, there’s a bunch of mongies in the river”. They all stopped and started pointing an outrageous volley of abuse was launched. One of the group then made a gesture imitating a rifle. He exclaimed “Harpoon the disabled” and the group lined up like an imaginary firing squad. They then lost interest and sauntered off down the road. I was absolutely stunned by their crass attitude. I have a cousin who suffers from Downs syndrome, I am taking her on holiday in a few weeks. I cannot possibly explain my disgust. The image has stuck with me since. The comments of Rams reminded me of that.
Can you stoop any lower?
The sheers gloating about an attack on people less well off and less able to cope. Rams is of courser entitled to his views. He’s entitled to gloat on twitter if he wants. If I was Richard Cornelius, I’d sack him for his poor judgement.
So, Roger, lets be clear, you insult, imply and make things up – and you think I have a trust issue!

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  1. Rog T says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    I doubt you will publish this, but here is my reply anyway. Let me go through your points.
    Firstly re your tweet. You said “welcome news from Cllr Davey … – The end of a council house for life in Barnet” – – You said nothing about “for new tenants”. You cannot even tell the truth in your own blog.
    Second. I insulted you because I believe you deserve it. Your comments would cause great distress to the thousands of council house tenants in Barnet. You revel in having power without taking responsibility.
    Third. I said nothing about your parentage and would not do so. To twist my words as such is clearly rather sad and desperate. The comment was clearly directed at your lack of compassion for families on low pay, who you seem to have no empathy at all for.
    Fourth. I was at Mill Hill library within 2 minutes of you tweeting the fact that you claimed to be present, I spoke to staff (as you know). I asked if they knew you and they said “yes”. As you are their boss, I had no reason to doubt them. They said you were planning to come later. I challenged you to release the CCTV footage to prove you were their and you declined to do so.
    Fifth. You have publicly stated that you sought a capital receipt from the sale. It is a matter of public record that you mislead the Save Friern Barnet LIbrary campaign. If you have changed your mind, that doesn’t mean you didn’t mislead them.
    Sixth, where is this list?
    Sixth. It is clearly not my fault if Robert Rams falls out with a ex senior member of his own party. How can he hold me responsible for that? I did not make the comments, merely noted that he had.
    As to “making things up”, you make the allegation but you don’t provide any evidence of this charge. What have I ever made up? I don’t need to. You are clearly rather thin skinned and have a problem with the truth, as demonstrated yet again.
    Roger Tichborne

Town Hall Protestors – they did themselves no favours

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Town Hall Protestors – they did themselves no favours

If you take time the read the so called “barnet blogs” you will be painted a one sided picture of events of the full council meeting on Tuesday. The reality was very different.
Yes there was a small protest outside – the same people we see most full council and cabinet meetings.
Yes there was lots of heckling – again by the same people but this time it was embarrassing to themselves and did their argument no favours at all. It was so over the top and we ran out of time debating the one barnet motion – which was a real shame.
At the break I met with John Burgess of Unison. He introduced me two of his colleagues whose names sadly I have forgotten. I hope they don’t mind me saying that they looked embarrassed by what was going on and one of the ladies tried to point out to me that not all the members of their union were like this.
I passionately believe that what we are doing is the right thing – and it is obvious that they are passionate in their views – but Tuesdays performance by a small group of people did themselves no favours.
It must be remembered that we are in this situation and forced down this path because of the former Labour Government – whom I am sure many of the protestors supported.

2 Responses to Town Hall Protestors – they did themselves no favours

  1. Mrs Angry, Broken Barnet blog says:
    If you cannot understand why people are driven to such a point of anger and frustration then really you need to accept that you are totally unsuited to a life in politics. At every turn the Tory council has shut down any opportunity for real engagement with residents, and this is the result. People feel passionately about their borough, their families, their lives and their future.
    If you can’t stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.
  2. robertrams says:
    Its funny you use this term “people” – by people you mean the same activists who turn up to every meeting and shout insults – and by “people” you mean who their very own union leaders were embarrassed by
  3. Rog T says:
    Your comment is awaiting moderation.
    Robert, as you know I attended the meeting on Tuesday. The person who sat next to me was a Rabbi, who hadn’t attended a meeting before. There was also a trustee from a local healthcare charity, a representative from the Barnet traders as well as several other traders. I also met a trustee from a Sri Lankan charity which I am involved with who has never been to a council meeting before. I am sorry to say that none of these people are what you may call “the same activists”. As you know I’ve been attending meetings for several years. To suggest that the same people always go is a complete distortion of the truth. As to “shouting insults”, I have posted video footage and you can hear quite clearly that it is not insults being shouted but observations on the performance of councillors.